In total, the pair saw 14 ships, led by a Russian minesweeper, approach the coast off Odesa and then turn back toward Crimea. ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. Im all for countries determining their own choices, but I can see Putins concerns. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. British warships escort Russian fleet through English Channel, Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCG. Stand by to be surprised. You can read more here. An armed Russian warship docked at a harbor in Cuba on Monday as Russia warned the U.S. against causing a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis. As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance. Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. So will Taiwan. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. The Russians will only invade if they think they can get away with it and thicko Biden has given them the green light by saying he wont defend Ukraine. He also works for the NHS. US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. How would you like me to paint Corbin and Johnson with the same brush? A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. Just do what I do and refer to wikipedia according to which the class was commissioned between 1975 and 1991. Our carriers will only come intoRead more . Will it damage to a ship? Any damage to external sensors, VLS tubes, the bridge area, mast, or flight deck would be enough to take it out of the fight. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. In theory . Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. The US Debt and How It Got So Big Updated December 30, 2021, https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778, i bet tyne sent shivers through the russian group. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. 'The operatives are trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. Erm, theres certain CO of a T23 on TV at the moment who disagrees with you not to mention Radakin hgiving HoC evidence, I havent see the show, so Ill take your word on it, Surely if Russia invades Ukraine theres gonna have to be big increases in defence and security spending were gonna have to reinforce all Eastern European alliance members for that matter any country world wide that feels threatened buy any powerful country, Hi Geordie, Youd think so. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Earlier this year, Vladimir Putin said the 135-meter-long frigate would sail for the Atlantic, the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea with the latest generation hypersonic cruise missiles on board. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. With pressure to take a more hawkish stance, he met Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin to discuss the next steps. Not many decent investigative journos around now. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . Really Ivan ? Agree as a tunnel runs under the channel we have right to defend the tunnel and if at war blockade the channel to defend it. An interesting question is how much does Kremlin insider Klyushin being in US custody have to do with the escalation? Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. We must stand with our Ukrainian allies., Biden has also authorized $200 million in additional support to meet Ukraines emergency defense needs, according to a U.S. State Department spokesperson. Surely you mean the Syrians? Rocks?' The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. This was of course totally unrelated to his dad, then VP, having a say on loan money going into Ukraine. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. TheRead more . The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. Biden is standing up to Putin in every way logical. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? Its the bowl of gruel and the slice of old bread that really makes it all worthwhile. Yes we cant come to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way but this should be it now as far as the Baltics are concerned- reinforce the fuck out of them so they know what surrounded really means and, I hate to say this but trump was right the Germans are useless spineless allies and they dont deserve the support they have now, relocate all forces to Poland and the Baltics where it really matters. 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All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. Which begs the question why? If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. . I didnt think anyone could be worse than Trump. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. Apart from Qaswem Soleimmani. A pair of those would make a proper mess of todays warships. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. I somehow doubt it. https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/  With the clown we have as PM? Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. The only ones being childish are the politicians, the oil industry and those that choose to ignore reality. Its not as easy as it seems, accurately targeting the correct vessel in high shipping density waters. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. Lauren Lewis For Mailonline The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been. I wouldnt imagine it would be allowed under international law. Europe must now start taking this threat seriously, re-arm and be prepared to fight. Who do you think signed the peace deal with the Taliban you delusional fool? Its a land grab and a hard lesson to NATO not to expand further east and Im afraid Ukraine who have been pro west since independence will pay the price. If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. (apologies for the convoluted English there!). The politicians have finally realised that imposing cuts on manpower and platform numbers relentlessly for the last 70 years has led to a navy that is too small to fully fulfil its Gobal Britain role. READ NEXT:Army poised to send 'game-changing' tanks to Ukraine to smash RussiaBefore and after maps show Russia's territorial losses in UkraineUK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontlineCleverly under pressure over German spy - Britain battles 'silent war'Putin replaces 'General Armageddon' after three months in top job. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. That would make a great movie but better to follow the money trail back to Russia and other foreign powers. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. So is his agenda really totally different? They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors over 'poison' fears Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader of Chechnya and a close confidant of Vladimir Putin Not training troops. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. For use in the littoral, these also need to be smart weapons, able to accurately discriminate between types of ships not good to go sinking the wrong ships! Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. The military ship activated its AIS tracker on Wednesday at 10am, making it visible on real-time marine traffic tracker. Ultimately, the maneuver ends abruptly. I think now the Russians have thrown everything on the table NATO must do the same, no backing down. All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. . Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. But the latest intelligence now has Ministry of Defence chiefs worried about a much larger incursion, raising fears of warfare engulfing cities and high civilian death tolls. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! Ukraine is not a NATO country, therefore Article 5 will not be called and NATO will not fight. Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. The British destroyer visited the Ukrainian port of Odessa this week, where an agreement was signed for Britain to help upgrade Ukraine's navy. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained. A very rugged and reliable ship, only 500 tons carrying capacity but their operation in Syria would not have been possible without the. Lithuanian Defence Minister Arvydas Anusauskas said today: 'In the current situation, we view the arrival of Russian armed forces in Belarus not only as a destabilising factor in the security situation but also as the one posing an even bigger direct threat to Lithuania.'. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. Russia summoned the British ambassador in Moscow for a formal diplomatic scolding after the warship breached what the Kremlin says are its territorial waters but which Britain and most of the world say belong to Ukraine. Its the same with 90% of Russian kit. As @RB has posted a lack of ASM is not high on the list of RNs priorities, whatever the reasons. Just to keep us on our toes. Using missiles at that close a range in very crowded waters would be crazy. Yeah easily mistaken for Japanese torpedo boats a few thousand miles off course. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. Ah, but at least the Brits flogged off some 60y/o CVR(T)s. Biden??? It would be a signal of intent to the Russians. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! I can see why you next comment was For starters. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! Dont want to show my age but I remember reading about the Ropucha class as a schoolboy in the 80s. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. They have nothing to match it. Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. Once there they re establish the picture. We are now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack on Ukraine.'. Russia has brought in new forces to Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014. Or perhaps NATOs drive eastwards since the fall of communism might just be giving them sleepless nights! 'The current deployments are versatile. Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. But you have to appreciate they are not the be all and end all. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Agreed. We are were we are now and it should have never have got to this point. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. Ringfence it. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! But the figures arent as large as claimed andRead more . Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. loads of shps. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. I think so. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. Land, they have plenty. With what? In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. France Germany etc may send troops to countries near Ukraine but fighting Ill be surprised. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. Historical connections with Lvov/Lviv arguably Polish for some. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. And its theseRead more . With you on this DL, some interim AShMs on all T45/T23sbut Mr Wallace is here in Sydney at the moment. Yep, putting a heavy weight anti ship missile in a cruise ship would be the ultimate fuck up and hand a victory to Russia. Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. Hi mate. It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73).