WebASM Hammer (1858) Check Stock Price US$38.50 Quantity Item 2 Code 111ASM002 Description Asm Hammer (1863 Pocket) Check Stock Price US$24.20 Quantity Item 3 And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. 1866 Rifle Manual. FOOD, Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. I respect your opinion, but roll my eyes when you try to state that as a matter of fact when its an opinion. This may provoke howls of outrage, but whitetails with a scoped .243 or .308 is not hunting. That sucker started flipping all over the place. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. Bah! Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! The one thing I really like is that the entire process of loading is actually fun, whereas for my M&P45 loading a mag isnt something to get excited about. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL hello again my good friends , I have a couple sets of BP cap/ball one is a mixed set of open top 1-36 navy and a 44 navy/army and the other is a set of 1858 new army is 44 any how was thinkin of pull-in them out of the safe and maybe doing a tune up ,try to soffen those big springs but don't see any thing on them any more , not a mention , were these "junk " guns .? The problem doing that is the bolt finger like the 1st gens was really sharp and the cams on the hammers were soft. I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. (not by much) sInce they use the .44 barrel boared for .22s, the strength is well past ridiculous, even for the .22 Magnum. Stamped on top of octagon barrel "1855 SPAIN". Johnnie Roper. Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. 20?) Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. About 150 ft-lbs Energy However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and Parts are still available on a limited basis from VTI. I've thought I might make a lamp out of it one day. THE BORE IS MIRROR .45 Colt; 98% blue, mint bore, near mint grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1871 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN NEAR NEW CONDITION. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. They are the Edsel of. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve, I do know however that the 74's made by the Chiappa are, having problems. I taught my neighbors son (after he turned 18) how to shoot black powder with my 1858 and he fell in love with the revolver, so I gave him a new one for college graduation. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Bore and chambers in very good+ 36 Caliber; 97% blue, very good+ bore, very good+ grips, 6.58'' barrel, Pietta Remington 1858 revolver, 6 shot, 36. caliber with very good bore and chambers, slight surface corrosion in the chambers. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. Loved the pics too. ", Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont [have] safety notches.. Barrel: 12 inch Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Actions 44 BP; 60% blue, fair bore, fair grips, 7.75'' barrel, Made in Italy. EMF had ASM building them before they switched to Uberti. I have been told of caps jamming up a Remington Revolver, but in over Twenty Years of shooting Remingtons, have not had a single jam caused by a cap! But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. That is true. and practise with that heavy load! It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. BORE IS NEAR MINT WITH EXCELLENT RIFLING. He took the gun back. It was the Top Overall prize at a shoot in NM about 1993. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO. Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. It definitely seems that the makers will do as much quality control as is expected by the importer. Colonel in Texas Army. SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. THE FRAME AND HAMMER RETAINS APPROX 90% OF THEIR COLORS.. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. I remember this because I had a pair of them at the time this came up. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. This was when ASM/Chaparral was making the infamous 73's and 66's. well, few years ago I visited a gun shop in Brescia "Palmetto" and I was looking for the double gun they were selling (Chaparral Sidebyside) . BORE IS GOOD WITH GOOD 36 Caliber; 60% blue, fair bore, good grips, 5'' barrel, REPRODUCTION OF 1851 NAVY REVOLVER. WOODEN GRIPS ARE NEAR MINT 45 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good stock, 10'' barrel, REPRODUCTION KENTUCKY PERCUSSION PISTOL. Not Richards Mason, but Richards like Tom Selleck had in "Sabre River". When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Left grip has a chip of wood missing at the pin on the back edge. Of course, walking around with fully-loaded and capped extra cylinders on your belt or in your pocket can be a bit dicey. Used, bore is dirty, grips are worn. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. For powder loads, the .36s usually run 15-20 grains (that is by volume, not by weightso you MUST use a measure), while most loads for .44s that Ive seen (all my guns are .36) are 25 to (max) 35 grains. The definition includes any replica of an antique firearm if it is not designed or redesigned for usingrimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or uses rimfire or conventional centerfire ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States, and which is not readily available in ordinary channels of commercial trade. It wears Pietta gripframe screws, too. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 I have an Italian-made 1858 replica with an R&D conversion cylinder. with only two hands, juggle the fresh loaded cylnder onto the Arbor Pin, replace the barrel, and drive home the wedge, (Bearing in mind that ones horse might be objecting quite strenuously to all the Booms, Bangs, cracks, and the whine of Shells going past hie ears!. Are the parts hand made/fitted, or is the manufacture generic these days? They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. 1883 Burgess Manual. WebRemington Rolling Block; Remington Lee; 1865 Springfield (1st Allin) 1866 Springfield (2nd Allin) 1868-70 Springfield (50/70) 1873-1889 Springfield (45/70) 1873 Winchester; 1885 Winchester; 1895 Winchester Lee Navy; Winchester Hotchkiss; Winchester Model 61; Winchester Model 62; Winchester Model 86; Winchester Model 90/06; Winchester 1899. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. A forum community dedicated to the great outdoors and hunting enthusiasts. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. I even got a lee mold to cast mini BP bullet for 36 cal , but cause the bullet was a tad long to fit in cly loading press on the navy,I never tried it thanks Stan. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Lock functions well, trigger 44 Caliber; 96% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. THSS TSRA NRA Life Just my opinion. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". Black powder is scary in the beginning. But its not hunting. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers. I found Uberti cap & call cylinders a drop-in fit in both Uberti and Colt 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Navies and Armies. PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). DO use a stout load. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. Remington. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. I am a bit of a traditionalist so I have 50-50 lard-beeswax that I put on cylinder after loading; cleaning is easy with hot water and Ballistol. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & Barrel: 12 inch The instruction manual back then did not give any information on proper cleaning. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. My dad of course saw them when they were new. Grand Army /Frontier I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. It was a great pointer and very accurate. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. There are about three or four brands out there, so find the one that works best. Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont safety notches. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. This version features improved accuracy. No record exists of his ever giving an Ordinary, Plain workmanlike Pistol, to anyone who might actually have to FIGHT with the badly designed piece of Junk!!!!! Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. WOOD 36 Caliber; 75% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Uberti 1851 Navy 6 shot .36 caliber black powder revolover. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. WOODEN STOCK IS VERY GOOD WITH LIGHT HANDLING WEAR 36 Caliber; 80% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL NAVY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION.. I had a few ASMs in the very early days. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. Armi San Marco is out of business. Not really outrage, but an eyeroll for sure. One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. .44 Cal percussion. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS MILD OXIDATION. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. This version features improved accuracy. The bucks are off limits. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. Do put grease in each chamber after loading. They refused to talk with the others. Finally, different guns will perform differently with different sized balls (or conicals), and that is something to experiment with as well. I have a Pietta target model I like to take with me backpacking. SOLD The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. I like that yall are diversifying the content a little bit. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. Thank God I had my Reminton. Exc condition, appears unfired. FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH MODERATE WEAR, SPECKLING AND LIMITED PITTING VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. The grips were too thin to get a good grip of. Friends (very few of them) are welcome to spend the night on the sofa, be on the back porch at sunrise, and harvest a doe with his thanks. Anyway it worked, never had a problem since. I wound up selling it shortly thereafter. On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. The other great thing about the cap-and-ball revolvers is that they are not considered firearms, so you can buy all you want and have them shipped to your door. It is THE most accurate handgun I've ever fired. Some shot high except a .36 Army San Marco Colt 1851 Navy. Gauge: 44 percussion. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. I did not grease the shutgun one time and thought to fire it last. In between, he was granted US Patent No. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. Very cool stuff. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. THINNING VISIBLE ON BARREL NEAR MUZZLE. Rolling Hes got an 1858 Remington in each hand, and looks like at least two more on his belt. I will probably get a short-barreled Sheriff model later this year. I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. Either way, a good dose of lube also helps keep the black powder fouling moist and pliable, and easier to clean out. That's your build date. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. I wasn't there. ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. Personally, I think hes nutso! THE .44 Spec. Be like suing Ruger if they called one of their 1911 models "Old Slabsides", or Uberti over their new 1873 "Thumbuster". Nicks a real tech wizard. CAS, SASS, Cat: Sharpshooter Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Buffalo. I have an ASM Colt clone. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. What is really going on is that the low velocity sabot or conicals drop quite a bit, and holdovers are extreme. On the other hand, I also have an ASM 92 clone. Bore inn very good condition showing some light surface corrosion. What are those little balls for? Only Fordyce was very real born in Massachusetts and died in Connecticut. He joined the union army enlisting on Staten Island New York august 22,1862.Yesterday I loaded the Remington 44 caliber with 27 grains of FFG black powder and a 44 caliber ball from midway.At 20 yards it shot a nice 3 inch group. BORE IS VERY GOOD 44 Caliber; 75% blue, good bore, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52747, Lussignoli Renzo W. Moore/ London Reproduction - C53214, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 Having said this, I did take a whitetail a couple years ago with my 1858 Remington (standard max load per the Pietta manual). percussion caps are NOT standard size. If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. ; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent+ grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1872 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT+ CONDITION. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. 44 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. 1876 Rifle Manual. I might be wrong about this! And you thought the New York reload was a modern invention? The 1858 Remington has safety notches cut into the cylinder in between the nipples, giving the un-cocked hammer a place to rest thats not on a percussion cap. They are cheaper to buy, but the first time you put any Hot Loads through one, the Soft Brass Frame will stretch, and youll just have a thing that LOOKS like a gun, but all you can do with it is hang it on the Living Room Wall!!!! Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. Lock needs attention, hammer won't hold., s/n 346xx. This was suggested by a good friend and serious black powder target shooter who has a couple of the 1858s. I used to also have an 1858 Remington clone by ASM. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST 44 BP; fair bore, good stock, 4'' barrel, Made in Spain. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting Ill stick to smokeless powder firearms from now on (because Im lazy!). Watch Cabelas.com or Cabelas stores ( if you have one close to you) Model: 1858. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Any help would be appreciated. Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Bullshit!!! Not that it cant be done. could easily have the hammer slip off his thumb, and and fall into the Half-Cock Notch, This almost always broke off a sixteenth of an inch off the tip of the sear, and using this rough edge to fire the piece, made for a very rough trigger release! WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. Meat harvesting is whats done here in Texas. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. BRASS TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP ASSEMBLY. If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. 1860 Henry Manual. 36 Caliber; 70% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1861 REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION. Come visit us at: 1858remington.com Johnnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378, yup agree totally been doin bp for almost a half century myself n this is an excellent way to clean them your guy needs to foam elsewhere apparently that foam might dribble onto a bun n rust right through it to the table underneath after all foam is water lol. You should have. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Hooray for water! He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. Estimated Price: $400 - $600. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com Selleck wields a S&W Scholfield and a 1860 (I think) Colt open frame Army. The Colt type sighting was crude, to say the very least! Bluing on the barrel is in very 36 Caliber; 92% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Westerner's Arms 1851 Navy 6 shot revolver, .36 caliber black powder. The guns worked flawlessly in stock form when I sold them. Anyone have any experience with hunting large animals with cap and ball guns? Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of gens. Thanks Dan. Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. The US Government needed as many revolvers as it could get. My first cowboy pistol was an ASM EMF Hartford in .357, bought new in about '95 or '96. 1885 Low Wall Manual. Come join the discussion about hunting, fishing, survival, archery gunsmithing, optics, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I had the same problem. Black Powder Revolver Manual. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why THE FRAME, HAMMER AND RAM ROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN 97% OF EUROARMS 1858 REMINGTON NEW ARMY - C56032, Westerners Arms Colt Percussion Revolver - C56011, Mendi Single Barrel Percussion Pistol - C55991, Italian Guild Remington Percussion - C55994, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. Ive got an Uberti rep with the brass frame, so loading above 25g of triple eff aint recommended. stan wayback Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. I shot ASM 58's in my early years. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. Mausers, Lee Enfields, Mosins, Krags etc. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. I boil all my cylinders in a saucepan, and pour boiling water through the barrels of the guns. Unbelievable what has happened to the price of Old Army since Ruger quit making them. New in Box-never fired. There is some variability between brands of caps as well as manufacture of nipples. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination Can anyone tell me a good load to start? I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. I shot them for five years until I got my Colts and they worked fine.